可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#400571講者:Speaker: Tatsuhiko MiyagawaThat’s cool. I just got this book last week. I read Exhalation. That’s a very short one. I haven’t started the Lifecycle of Software Objects. I think that’s very long for him. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-06-09 Interview with Tatsuhiko Miyagawa