可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#388039講者:Speaker: Maaike Okano-HeijmansI would love to discuss all of this in much, much more detail, but for now, it’s great having sort of an… 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-04-07 Interview with Maaike Okano-Heijmans