可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#378090講者:Speaker: Audrey TangWe are just observing that our, I wouldn’t say retired, but not-on-active-duty ministers can now take place on important positions in standard-making organizations. That’s another strategy.逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-02-21 Conversation with Nathan Kaiser