可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#371793講者:Speaker: Martin AldrovandiWas this difficult to convince or deal with these different ministries who were in charge of that? Was that new for them? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-01-03 Interview with Martin Aldrovandi