可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#358226講者:Speaker: Mark StokesIt’s a move in the right direction. In an ideal world, yes, it’s symbolic. Of course, symbolism has a substance. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2019-12-10 The American Enterprise Institute visits