可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#355884講者:Speaker: VisitorWhat was the biggest resistance initially, and how did you convince people to say, “OK, we’ll give it a try”? I mean your colleagues in the government. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2019-12-04 Conversation with German visitors