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講者:Speaker:
Exactly right. If it relies on a political appointee, then that means it’s not institutionalizing internalized into the public service culture. That means that I’m not done designing myself out.

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講者:Speaker:
Exactly right. If it relies on a political appointee, then that means it’s not institutionalizing internalized into the public service culture. That means that I’m not done designing myself out.
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