可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#353469講者:Speaker: Audrey TangThat is to say, it is about democracy and not about state instrumentation. The most active groups are 15-years-olds and 65-years-olds. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2019-12-12 Interview with Filippo Santelli