可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#351475講者:Speaker: MalcolmI’m really interested in this upward spiral of collaborative engagement that you have with people and I’m trying to find a way to create that in Ukraine, potentially. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2019-12-10 Conversation with Andrey Suprun and Chronos Productions