可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#342725講者:Speaker: Hernâni MarquesAnd we need like an approach where the government reaches out to people or where we even have a like position like yours – where like a connection is being made to like civil society. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2019-11-27 Hernâni Marques and David Lanzendörfer visit