可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#342679講者:Speaker: Hernâni MarquesThe first time was catastrophic, because there were like Tibet people around. Second time, they like needed the protection of, they made a view protection… 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2019-11-27 Hernâni Marques and David Lanzendörfer visit