可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#342510講者:Speaker: Hernâni MarquesYeah, no, that’s not it. They also introduced that you can use Trojan horses, GovWare, state malware, let us say, to bug computer and stuff… so they can do also that. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2019-11-27 Hernâni Marques and David Lanzendörfer visit