可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#342475講者:Speaker: Hernâni MarquesSo if governments, at least some parts of it, start to realize that we are like doomed, in a way… at least, in the long run… or already now, in certain cases… 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2019-11-27 Hernâni Marques and David Lanzendörfer visit