可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#332630講者:Speaker: Audrey TangYeah, there’s always a risk if the law makers ignore this norm design first approach and try to pass the law that dictates the codes, that dictates for the whole society. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2019-10-08 Interview with Renat Künzi