可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#327532講者:Speaker: Audrey TangWe have 31 ministries, soon 32. The ministers without portfolio used to be 80 percent senior ministers. They were ministers, and then they ascended to the Executive Yuan and still coordinated. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-04-06 Conversation with Tom Atlee and Colin Megill