可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#321960講者:Speaker: Audrey TangThose two values may sometimes conflict, and that creates tension that did not exist in the previous product-based era. Is that understanding correct? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2019-08-31 Atushi Osanai visits