可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#303736講者:Speaker: Audrey TangI’m still using spam or junk mail as an analogy. The thing is not to measure the relative energy spent. Of course the spammers spend far less energy than anti-spam people. That’s a given.逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-10-17 Interview with Kai Strittmatter