可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#290080講者:Speaker: Audrey TangThey are making the citizen transparent to the state, right? Whereas we are the other way around. [laughs]逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2019-04-28 Interview with Jefcoate O’Donnell