可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#272814講者:Speaker: George PoulakidasDo you see this almost two different, I don’t know if that’s the proper term, worlds, the social and industrial, let’s say, as necessarily coexistent? Could it be only social, for example? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2019-02-27 George Poulakidas visit