可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#270750講者:Speaker: Jeffrey BardzellAs professors, people have an idea, they just walk in, "Do you have five minutes?" An hour later, they leave. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-12-07 Interview with Jeffrey and Shaowen Bardzell