可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#269497講者:Speaker: Audrey TangI think with time, and with more projects like this one, we hear less and less about how I need to be to cultivate software culture. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2019-02-16 Interview with Miriam Meckel