可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#236383講者:Speaker: Frederic LalouxIt sounds like there was a whole part of data gathering from the ministries and then feeding that to participants. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-10-31 Conversation with Frederic Laloux