可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#236367講者:Speaker: Frederic LalouxTo me, it sounds like a particularly beautiful example, because this is exactly the sort of headline-grabbing topic that in traditional politics gets misused. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-10-31 Conversation with Frederic Laloux