可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#236349講者:Speaker: Frederic LalouxWhat you see is that when you have deep deliberative spaces, these things tend to break down, because then suddenly I see... 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-10-31 Conversation with Frederic Laloux