可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#236342講者:Speaker: Audrey TangWe still have to wait a generation or two, but I’m very optimistic about it. I think it’s just a matter of time. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-10-31 Conversation with Frederic Laloux