可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#236315講者:Speaker: Frederic LalouxThen, you stumble upon another issue, which is self-selection versus random sortation, right? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-10-31 Conversation with Frederic Laloux