可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#235615講者:Speaker: InterviewerIf there were people who saw social innovation and digital government as two different movements, if those groups weren’t connected, what might you have to say to some of those people? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-11-08 Interview at FWD50