可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#223341講者:Speaker: Clément MabiWhen you were speaking about this dictionary, I can see that you are mixing social innovation and civic innovation. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-10-04 Conversation with Clément Mabi