可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#223284講者:Speaker: Clément MabiAre you ever see that the other ministers can be a bit afraid by citizen because sometimes they ask to do some things that they are not used to do? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-10-04 Conversation with Clément Mabi