可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#211378講者:Speaker: William CharltonThat’s the structure I’ve sort of got, but until it’s tried and tested, I don’t know whether it’s the right structure, and we don’t have the software. [laughs] Lots of catch-22s. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-09-04 Conversation with William Charlton