可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#211326講者:Speaker: Audrey TangI think it makes sense to start our experiments, start our coordination and workshops and so on, on this self-ruling, to a degree, cities or states in this kind of size. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-08-27 Conversation with Catherine Mayer