可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#199753講者:Speaker: Audrey TangYes, that’s right, which is why we work in the open, meaning that we publish the toolkits that we’re working with. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-07-23 Conversation with Hannes Hofer