可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#199713講者:Speaker: Hannes HoferYou have to think about an idea, "How can you implement participation with the existing way of democracy that we’re having?" And this is what you are doing. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-07-23 Conversation with Hannes Hofer