可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#162281講者:Speaker: Tom AtleeThe cluster names are clustered and feedback loops are drawn between these different dimensions of each of these things, showing how they support each other or block each other. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-03-23 Conversation with Tom Atlee and Miki Kashtan