可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#162215講者:Speaker: Tom AtleeI don’t tend to put the fun part in it. You put it right in the middle. [laughs] 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-03-23 Conversation with Tom Atlee and Miki Kashtan