可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#162114講者:Speaker: Audrey TangNow, after seeing this picture, I think I see how more recursiveness and less instrumentality -- I think that’s the English word -- it could be as part of the integration. Thank you for that. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-03-23 Conversation with Tom Atlee and Miki Kashtan