可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#162095講者:Speaker: Miki KashtanYou’re flattening it to a doing. For me, it’s a way of being. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-03-23 Conversation with Tom Atlee and Miki Kashtan