可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#161859講者:Speaker: Miki KashtanI wasn’t talking about this. I was talking about, really, what do you need? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-03-23 Conversation with Tom Atlee and Miki Kashtan