可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#161799講者:Speaker: Miki Kashtan...was not the most cost effective. I want to challenge that. I think that it is the most cost effective, if you factor in the right costs. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-03-23 Conversation with Tom Atlee and Miki Kashtan