可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#161690講者:Speaker: Tom AtleeI understand. In Colin’s chart there were lots of, "Over here we use this," "Over here we use this." I don’t know all the things, but I do get the sense. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-03-23 Conversation with Tom Atlee and Miki Kashtan