可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#150914講者:Speaker: Audrey TangMaking sure that there is a productive discussion, and it is a facilitating space making role, I think. The government can still play, too, a role while there is still government. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-03-21 Interview with Ludovic Sinet