可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#150711講者:Speaker: Audrey TangWhereas in the old model, the minister would get all the credit and the public servant absorbed all the risk. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-03-21 Interview with Ludovic Sinet