可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#144964講者:Speaker: Sylvie BarbierYou are very positive that upon these reforms, that they will really change not just the superficial, but really change the relationship between the knowledge and the students? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-03-07 Meeting with The Leap