可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#137665講者:Speaker: Yu-shan TsengEven though I can’t code or there’s some barriers for us to try to understand, I think that’s the starting point. [laughs] Thank you very much for explaining everything to me. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-02-19 Interview with Yu-shan Tseng