可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#135443講者:Speaker: Anders FrickWe started talking about this, making government more transparent. Every Wednesday you work outside the administration. It’s usually innovation lab. Why? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-01-04 Interview with Anders Frick