可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#135412講者:Speaker: Anders FrickHaving those not CIOs, maybe or not, because if we can come back to your own work in organizations, you appoint champions to every department. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-01-04 Interview with Anders Frick