可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#102075講者:Speaker: Audrey TangThis is very surprising, and it’s not in any of the public administration textbooks I’ve read. That’s what I’m also learning. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2017-10-16 Interview with James Bray