The Chair

I will now introduce our second panel. Our witnesses have been asked to make an opening statement of five minutes each. This will be followed by questions from senators.

With us at the table, from Knockri, we welcome Jahanzaib Ansari, CEO; and via video conference, please welcome Audrey Tang, all the way from Taiwan, the Taiwan Cyber Ambassador. Thank you both for being here. I will now invite Mr. Ansari to make his presentation, which will be followed by Audrey Tang.

Thank you, Mr. Ansari.

Thank you so much, both of you, for your very engaging presentations. I’m sure there will be lots of questions for you. We will begin.

I’m sitting here completely blown away by both of your responses to questions. I don’t think we’ve heard such responses in the past, so thank you so much.

My question for you, Mr. Ansari, is: In light of the solutions to bias-free decisions that Knockri is working on, I’m wondering what the take-up is on the work or the benefits that you offer? And not the name, but what would a typical client look like in terms of the work you are doing?

Thank you so much.

Audrey, I don’t have a lot of time left, but I’m really intrigued by the governance model you talked about. You mentioned the importance of the people affected should be helping to set the rules, for example. You also mentioned that it is possible to be using AI in a way that is not about replacing but helping us to relate with each other and to help each other. Could you talk a little bit about that as well? I’m also interested in the take-up of the approach that you are using whether that be in Taiwan or in other jurisdictions.

Thank. That’s very interesting.

Mr. Ansari, did you want to add anything?

Thank you very much. Thank you for that last point.

I feel hopeful after hearing both of you, and your responses were incredible. To be hearing things like sovereignty is not solitude and talk about inclusive prosperity, and how to use AI in a way that actually reduces barriers and biases, I think. I can speak for myself; I’ve been hoping to hear that. So thank you very much.

This brings us to the end of our panel and thank you both for contributing to this work that we’re doing. It’s been very helpful.