Three weeks ago?
Noah, you narrowly missed them.
If you'd arrived just a week earlier, I think you would have experienced three.
The same as earthquakes.
A big earthquake is going to come...
Eventually.
We had an earthquake in '99, really, really bad. We, of course, still build buildings after that. It's not like we don't build buildings because of earthquakes. We've just got to build with resilience in mind.
I don't know... We field a million or so cyberattacks every day.
And maybe three felt ones, same as earthquakes. [laughs]
Port scanning and so on, things that are actually recorded by the log.
We know that it's foreign because foreign packets travels through submarine cables somewhere. It could be a botnet.
Right now we're pretty resilient, with all those zero-days we had to deal with, hybrid cognitive warfare, you name it. So it's exactly like earthquakes.
Yes.
It is, with Trend Micro and so on. There's also a new, young generation who consistently places second in DEFCON CTF, right after the US team, of course.
The US team is pretty good. Yeah, we're doubling down on cybersecurity.
There's an area that we may excel in cyber security, the semiconductor supply chain. The E187 semiconductor supply chain cybersecurity standard came from Taiwan, and we're trying to export that in the sense of mutually compatible lab...
Yeah.
Which one?
Yeah, I think in one of the servers used by public cloud services. It was long ago.
I think that's it.
Sure. I don't know about that particular incident for sure, but similar stories were the prompt during the Sunflower Movement in 2014 to say that, if we use PRC's so-called private sector product in our telecommunication -- at the time not 5G -- 4G infrastructure, then it cost a lot more to do system risk analysis as compared to sourcing with European counterparts.
Providing broadband service, yeah.
It's immediately before. Some of the people who participated in Sunflower happened to be visiting Hong Kong sharing some of the Sunflower stories when Umbrella happened.
I don't know about that, but there's people who participated in both.
Wow.
What brought you to Hong Kong?
There's a couple bookstore in Taipei that tries to snapshot that moment and transport it here, run by Hong Kong expats and with the Hong Kong community currently in Taipei. Have you been there?
Not just document, but to keep it alive.
People keep telling me that I should see it, but no.
Yes?
It gets very silly.
It's very silly. We've got a Department of Democracy Network within moda now. Within that department, there's a division dedicated for we would call it Plurality, or web3-enabled decentralized social technology.
Its Mandarin name is very similar to the movie's title, it went quite popular for a while. People kept telling me that I should hire Michelle Yeoh, the actress, to head that division.
I read about her being a stone. The translation for that is very interesting.
Wang Anshi, a stable rock.
Many of them are here either by investments or education.
Indeed?
It depends on whether you joined by investments or by employment or things like that. It's...
There's something like whether you joined the Chinese Communist Party and worked in the Hong Kong government there, things like that...
If there's a flag there, then maybe it takes longer.
"Immigrants, we get the job done."
Get the job done.
Yeah. Some of them here may even naturalize at some point.
It's a free society. You don't have to naturalize... today. Let's talk tomorrow. [laughs]
They do. Yes. The idea is that the gold card, because it's renewable, if you renew by that point maybe we try to convince you to naturalize. Because you get to keep your original passports if you make significant contributions, like if you're a gold card holder...
No, I think it's very significant. There's a three-year period. Get your gold card, blog for three years and then it'll be significant.
You can wear this "Also Taiwanese" badge.
Universal healthcare for you and your family.
That's fine. We have 20 national languages. Pick one to learn. John here doesn't speak any of them either.
