Sarah Wilson

Okay. So I think that gives people a really good understanding of how you are using technology to get civilians involved in policymaking, and using AI to do this. You use a phrase -- and you actually just mentioned it at the beginning of the interview -- you used the word "composting," which is a wonderful Joanna Macy term. A few people in this space use this term, and I think it's a wonderful word. And in your next book that you're working on -- and I've read the working paper, I'll put a link to it for everybody in the show notes -- you use the phrase "techno-communitarianism can compost technofeudalism." So I think that's kind of what we're at here. We're trying to work out if that is actually possible. You're saying it can. Can you explain that phrase? Can you explain how it works? And then I'm going to drill down with you with some "what abouts" that I have in the back of my mind, and hopefully I'm representing what listeners and viewers are thinking. So tell me what you mean by this idea that this communitarian use of technology can compost this dark use of technology -- the technofeudalism, the technofascism, the tech bro takeover of technology. How does that work?

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